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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJonathan Aizen Date: Mar 31, 2003 12:12pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: source info conventions

How should FOB tapes be handled? Should we still put into the source info that the tape was done FOB so downloaders know what they are getting, even though this violates a particular bands taping policy?

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For source info, since the band's policies specifically forbid FOB taping, I put into the source file that the show was taped from 45' back


Are you saying that you put in the distance to show that your recording doesn't violate the band's taping policy? I sure hope it what you've written doesn't suggest that you've entered incorrect information in an attempt to cover up a violation of a band's taping policy.

Beyond this, as far as conventions go, put relevant information about source in the source info field. If it's deemed important enough, then we should create a separate field for information on distance from stage/board of mics for each source. Typically however, I don't see why this information needs to be in the source field - the notes field appears adequate to me. I'm not a taper though, and am not well informed about the issues involved with mic location. What do others think?

This post was modified by Jonathan Aizen on 2003-03-31 20:12:11

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbleblanc Date: Apr 1, 2003 2:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: source info conventions

Interesting thread. Basically, I feel that the Source field doesn't need the "DFC" or "XY at 90 degrees" or "OTS" etc... Just put in the equipment. Configuration details can be left to the info file.

I swapped a few emails with Matt Edlhuber about this back in January, and he had some good thoughts about FOB vs. OTS.

- If the tape is FOB, put it in the source field. Same goes with On-Stage recordings.
- If it's OTS, there's no need. If you don't see FOB or On-Stage, users can assume its a section tape.
- Since the possibility of 2 tapers running identical rigs out of the same area of the venue is pretty small, there's no need to have mic configurations in the Source field because it doesn't add any differentiating characteristics to the seed. If this actually DOES happen, we'll add the info.

-Brad

This post was modified by bleblanc57 on 2003-04-01 10:06:32

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbleblanc Date: Apr 1, 2003 8:39am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: source info conventions

By the way, all my comments above were regarding the Archive Detail Page form - when you add a show to the Archive.

I'm with Matt and thoman8r when it comes to Info files - more detail is better.

Sorry, after seeing Matt's comments I realized my last post was misleading.

-Brad

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffmedlhuber Date: Apr 1, 2003 7:54am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: source info conventions

The way i've always done it, is I put as much info as I have in the text file. Mic pattern, distnace from stage, preamps, ad's, EVERYTHING I have. But when I enter a show into archive.org, I usually just list the basic setup, I put (FOB) or (on-stage) before it, I dont put anything before it if it is OTS / Behind Soundboard because it is assumed. If its not FOB or on-stage, its section. But I always put EVERYTHING in the text file.

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Poster: thoman8r Date: Mar 31, 2003 1:19pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: source info conventions

I think any taper will tell you that mic location makes an enormous difference, especially when it comes to shows in bigger venues. I certainly think it warrants being documented somewhere in the info.